It's more profitable to simply release and focus on turning into Mughals. Boom, your Persia-in fact, releasing them as a vassal is probablly Timruds best move.

Start as Timruds, and release Persia as a vassal + click 'play-as'. Persia is only interesting because it's the only formable nation that, to my knowledge, you can form and play as from day 2. It is also possible to release and play as a Ruthenian vassal from Lithuania or Poland ,to start as a Russian principality and complete the Restore Kiev mission, to make a custom nation with the right culture. Mughals is one of a few empires that can form in India and gives claims on most/all of India. Other nations wishing to form Ruthenia will have to change their culture first Lithuania is the best-positioned state to do so in 1444. It's a good first step to a non-Bradenburg/Bavaria/Austria/Dutch Germany run to form one of them. EU4 patch 1.17 JANGLADESH on very hard mode one tag AAR: Visit Jangladesh EU4 patch 1.15 NAXOS one faith, one tag catholic crusader AAR: Visit the crusaders EU4 patch 1.13 YEREN into Qing true one tag (no CN) AAR: For the horde and EU4 patch 1. I think westphilia gets more provinces, Hannover more ports. Hannover is primary culture of Hannoverian, and gives claims in the hannover region westphilia gets claim in westphilia. One person could form both, of course (with a culture shift, I believe) but two people can't form one each the province requiresments are mutally exclusive. The Wealth of Nations expansion for Europa Universalis IV has been released today, along with a sizeable patch. Wealth of Nations, the games second major expansion pack, is now out and offering trade-focused. Westphilia and Hannover are mutally exclusive formables. Calling all magnates, tycoons and financiers, Europa Universalis 4 has a business deal for you. Sardina-Piedmont is avalible to Savoy or Sardinia, is easy to form (own the other), and gives almost nothing for forming besides prestige and 1 base tax increase in new capital. Hannover, Sardinia-piedmont, And Westphilia are all parts of a larger formable nation. Reforming only works if you are part of the same culture/group as the previous country, it doesen't exist, and you might need to own it's old capital orleons, Athens, Northumbria (has to be realeased first), and Styria (ditto northumbria) are some good examples of countries that can reform. You forgot Persia, Mughals, Westphilia, Hannover, Sardinia Piedmont, Romania, and reforming France, Byzantium, England, and Austria. I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me if I forgot any. Great Britain, Spain, Italy, the papal states (forget name), Netherlands, Scandinavia, Russia, Prussia, Commonwealth, Germany, Greece?, Persia, Hindustan, Malaysia. Originally posted by Rommel:I haven't seen a complete list of all the formable countries in the game, so I'll just list the ones I know of and see if there's any I'm not aware of.

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